8 Things the Founding Fathers would not believe about America 2010
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8 Things the Founding Fathers would not believe about America 2010
I often marvel at the lack of education and real knowledge people who claim to love America have about the founding fathers.
The most recent group who don’t know what they are taking about are the Tea Baggers. This group’s beliefs are based on some mythical America that never existed and will never exist. They want to go back to the founding fathers and what they stood for. They want to take back America from the terrible “progressives” and “liberals.”
It is true the founding fathers would spin in their graves if they could see the America of 2010. What would surprise them?
1. White men no longer own black men. The majority of the founding fathers owned human beings – black slaves. They believed it was Christian to own another human being, beat them, work them 14 hours a day, sell them, rape them, etc. They viewed “black people” as their property.
2. Women can vote. Wow! None of the founding fathers was for this and in fact they were against allowing women to vote.
3. Black people can vote and own property (not other human beings). Not one of the founding fathers would have voted for this.
4. Deposits in federally chartered banks are protected from fraud and theft by federal insurance – FDIC. Most of the founding fathers were rich and owned land and property. They would never have agreed to insure a working person’s bank deposits against crooked bankers.
5. We have a federally mandated retirement program, Social Security that pays over 48 million old people a monthly check so they can eat and have a place to sleep at night. Most of these people worked their butts off doing jobs that are needed but don’t pay enough to put money aside for retirement. My neighbor worked as a waitress for over 40 years. She gets about $1,000 per month. The founding fathers would rather see her on the street begging and so would the Republicans.
6. We have a mandated medical plan for old people who can no longer work and have no resources for medical care – Medicare. This would confound the founding fathers and the Republicans are against government healthcare programs.
7. We have laws protecting the environment from industrial pollution. For over 100 years companies dumped their industrial poisons into our rivers, lakes and streams and many were dead. Many cities suffered from air pollution. Liberal lawmakers passed laws that stopped this crime and that protect public waterways and the air you breathe.
8. No one can be held in jail without being provided an attorney, even if they can’t afford one. Innocent poor people can now protect themselves against false charges. The founding fathers and the Republicans are against this right. The Republicans say if you are too poor to have an attorney too bad.
The list of things that would both amaze and probably confuse the founding fathers is long. Let me be clear. The American founding fathers did one great job when they drafted and passed the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. But this group was much less than perfect. Christian Liberals built the America of 2010 by adding everyone to the benefits the founding fathers reserved for themselves. Liberals fought hard to get the rights you and I enjoy today. The conservatives fought all the above progress and in fact history shows they were against every single item listed above.
So when you hear these Tea Baggers demand we return to the founding fathers remember what we had then and what Liberals have given us now.
“Equal rights for all” is a Liberal gift the founding fathers would never have voted for and the Republicans oppose to this day. By the way the real Christians, Liberals, are those who fought and many died to give us what our founding fathers didn’t.
Is the America of 2010 better than the America of 1776? It is because the Liberals made it better.
Matthew 22:39-40
39"The second is like it, YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.'
40" On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."
Matthew 7:12 GOLDEN RULE -
12 “Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.”
John 14:15 “If ye love me keep my commandments.”
Matthew 25:44-46
44"Then they themselves also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see You hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not take care of You?'
45 "Then He will answer them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.'
46"These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
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RE,
Well said.
Thanks for reading and for your comments...
This is great. I took two history courses and one of them was America From 1700 to 1865 and what people do not know about history is astounding to me. Also the Medicare thing, it does exactly what it was meant to do: absolutely nothing. Great hub.
BR,
Thanks for reading and as always thanks for your commnets...
JC:
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I don't think the Founding Fathers could ever have envisioned the multicultural, diverse society we have today.
But I will say that the kid of society they may have envisioned is close to what the Tea Party set has in mind, an America ruled by and for an elite. Just don't expect Beck and Limbaugh to tell them that.
PS. May I link this to my FB profile?
TPC,
I agree they had no way of seeing what America has become and that is a major problem for the Tea party. They don't like what America has become, a country of many races, creeds and colors.
There is an underlying racism to the Tea Party.
I like your “new faces, old ideas” post.
Thanks for reading and for your comments...
YVW.
Now what about me posting this on my FB page?
TPC,
Go for it.
Thanks for you support and have a great weekend...
Great hub! I believe the thinking of the elite white men who carved this country out, never envisioned an equality in the manner in which the words were written. At the time, some men were not considered men (that being anyone not white). To say all men were equal did not carry the same weight with them because they never intended other races to be included. I think they would also be equally shocked at the Democratic stance on many things including homosexuality and abortion. Honestly, the Founding Fathers, the Republicans, the Tea Baggers, and the Democrats are all so far from Christ's way of thinking, it is amazing to me that anyone really thinks this was or is a Christian nation. Peace.
AMW,
Thanks for reading and for taking time to comment...
well done hub, great thoughts here. I often wonder what it means when I hear consitutional 'purists' say "we need to take our country back." I wonder if they truly believe our country should be taken back to a place that is not so friendly to fellow human beings (as you noted above).
Some people get so offended if you even suggest that the constitution is not perfect. I wonder if these people even understand the original document.
LRCB,
Most people that demand we return to the good old days are so removed from reality they can't make a logical decision.
American is great because we have changed and improved our country over time by including all Americans in the rights the founding fathers reserved for themselves. Liberals did that - not conservatives.
Thanks for reading and for your comments...
People like you can help save America. I really believe that. I'd say I'm really a moderate-- not a conservative, not a liberal: I don't like absolute definitions when there are so many different issues at hand, each of which requires a nuanced stance.
But if there's one thing I can't stand, it's the extent to which the conservatives and specifically the tea party freaks have co-opted our nation's symbols and ideals. Worse, many of them co-opt the symbols and ideals of religion as well.
We need more people like you who can stand up and see the issues from a judicious and impartial point of view-- while holding up the tenets of faith and our American identity at the same time.
Thank you.
AJ
AJ,
Thanks for reading and for your kind comments...
"The whole people must take upon themselves the education of the whole people and be willing to bear the expenses of it. There should not be a district of one mile square, without a school in it, not founded by a charitable individual, but maintained at the public expense of the people themselves."John Adams
“Consenting to slavery is a sacrilegious breach of trust, as offensive in the sight of God as it is derogatory from our own honor or interest of happiness” John Adams
He also represented the British after the Boston Massacre to ensure a fair trial. Got 6 off completely and the other two who actually aimed at Americans got manslaughter.
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries" John Adams
"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear."Thomas Jefferson
"Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth... Our sister states of Pennsylvania and New York, however, have long subsisted without any establishment at all. The experiment was new and doubtful when they made it. It has answered beyond conception. They flourish infinitely. Religion is well supported; of various kinds, indeed, but all good enough; all sufficient to preserve peace and order: or if a sect arises, whose tenets would subvert morals, good sense has fair play, and reasons and laughs it out of doors, without suffering the state to be troubled with it. They do not hang more malefactors than we do. They are not more disturbed with religious dissensions. On the contrary, their harmony is unparalleled, and can be ascribed to nothing but their unbounded tolerance, because there is no other circumstance in which they differ from every nation on earth. They have made the happy discovery, that the way to silence religious disputes, is to take no notice of them. Let us too give this experiment fair play, and get rid, while we may, of those tyrannical laws." Thomas Jefferson
"I hope we shall take warning from the example and crush in it's birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." Thomas Jefferson
"There must doubtless be an unhappy influence on the manners of our people produced by the existence of slavery among us. The whole commerce between master and slave is a perpetual exercise of the most boisterous passions, the most unremitting despotism on the one part, and degrading submissions on the other." Thomas Jefferson
"The tendency of a national bank is to increase public and private credit. The former gives power to the state, for the protection of its rights and interests: and the latter facilitates and extends the operations of commerce among individuals. Industry is increased, commodities are multiplied, agriculture and manufacturers flourish: and herein consists the true wealth and prosperity of a state." Alexander Hamilton
Don't really feel like listing anymore.
Most of the founding fathers were Deist. Believing in a creator, but not a Christian one. Wanted a separation of Church and State.
Most objected to slavery but avoided the issue to retain support from Southern States. James Monroe worked on emancipating slaves and deporting them to Liberia to prevent them from being captured and taken further South.
A great many of the founding fathers' ideologies were for rationalism and liberty. And while not as cultured and tolerant as we are today the principals under which they were operating were good.
Republican request to return to the principals of our founding fathers is built upon their own ignorance and they are unable to see the irony of the idea.
Nice to see someone refute the idiocy of this hubpage.
rebekahELLE Level 5 Commenter 20 months ago
I always snicker when I hear the tea party shouting about the good old days of the founding fathers. we do know the nomadic ancestors of Native Americans were here long before any European immigrants from the Mayflower. I think it's very true that generally people simply believe what they want to believe.