Jesus demands ALL Christians vote to TAX the RICH
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Jesus demands ALL Christians vote to TAX the RICH
It is clear that Jesus is against wealth and obscene wealth is a ticket to HELL. Yet Americans worship wealth and those who are wealthy.
Our Icons include Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, the number one and two in American net worth. Gates is worth about $50 billion and Buffett is worth about $40 billion.
Each individually is worth more than 80 of the 196 countries in the world with millions of people. Each gets richer each day, while many countries get poorer.
What did Jesus demand from Boll Gates and Warren Buffett along with the other obscenely wealthy 300,000 Americans with a net personal wealth over $100 million?
The protectors of the rich and greedy, the GOP, will not raise taxes on them and in fact wants to lower their taxes.
Matthew 22:37-40
39"The second is like it, YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.'
Do the wealthy love their neighbors? No! They love money and wealth and tell their neighbors without housing, food and medical care the same thing Dick Chaney told Pat Leahy on the floor of the senate - “Go F--- yourself.” Yes these are his words, not mine. This is exactly what Dick Chaney told his fellow Christian.
If they did love their neighbors these billionaires couldn’t sit with millions or in the case of 1,000 Americans, billions in net worth while 19 million American children live in poverty.
Timothy 6:8-10 (money)
8 “And having food and raiment (clothes) let us be therewith content.
9 “But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
10 “For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.”
I was once told by a very rich friend that all men love money and wealth, if they didn’t they wouldn’t keep trying to get more.
Jesus tells us throughout the New Testament the same thing over and over, the rich must give up their wealth. In each case the rich man walks away.
Personal greed is the worst addiction, stronger than cocaine.
Luke 18:22
22”Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.”
These are the instructions Jesus gives to each rich man; Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and the other over 300,000 obscenely wealthy Americans who hoard their wealth while their neighbors go without food, shelter and medical care in the richest country in the world.
If the rich will not follow the instructions of Jesus we should help them become better Christians and better people. We should raise their taxes to help the less fortunate.
Luke 16:15
15”And He said to them, "You are those who justify yourselves in the sight of men, but God knows your hearts; for that which is highly esteemed among men (money and possessions) is detestable in the sight of God.”
Luke 16:13
MONEY & GOD
13" No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other You cannot serve God and wealth."
34"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.”
They who are rich have made their choice – money over God and the word of God as given by his Son Jesus Christ.
1 Timothy 6:17
17 “Charge them that are rich in this world, that they may not be highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all thing to enjoy”
I think this means we need to tax these selfish people and help the poor?
James 5:1-4
1“Go to now rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.
2 Your richest are corrupted, and your garments are moth-eaten.
3 Your gold and silver are cankered; and the rust on them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.”
Jesus instructs us to tax the rich and give to the poor and yet America taxes the wealthy at tax rates so low this can’t be done. The average federal income tax rate the top 1% paid was less than the tax rate paid by a fireman married to a nurse in New York City. The richest 1% paid on average rate of 17% while the firemen married to the nurse paid 34%.
1 Timothy 6:17
17“Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy.”
Corinthians 12:25
25“That there should be no schism in the body, but that the members should have the same care one for another.
26 And weather one member suffer, all members suffer with it; or one member be honuored, all members rejoice with it.”
Galatians 6:2 “Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.”
Colossians 3:14 “And above all these things put on charity , which is the bond of perfectness.”
Are Bill Gates and Warren Buffett bearing the burden of the 19 million American children living in poverty? No! They tell these poor American children the same exact thing Chaney told Leahy. “Go f--- yourself.”
Americans must reform our tax system.
Solutions:
· Tax each dollar of income over $150,000 per year at 50%
· Limit capital gains taxes treatment (15%) to a lifetime of $5 million, all other capital gains income will be taxed at income tax rates
· Tax corporate gross revenue at 2% - this would provide over $1 trillion
· Provide universal healthcare
Please email your elected representative and tell them what you think.
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Wait, do you know what Bill Gates has recently devoted his life to? He AND Warren Buffet have pledged nearly all of their fortunes to charity. Sure, the rich can be greedy, but you should check out this news article from last year if you think they always are.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-
Warren Buffet has also contributed most of his wealth to charity. Jesus would direct the rich to contribute their own money; he wouldn't command governments to take it from them.
Even though the net worth of some men is huge, the government taking their money to throw at problems will not necessarily solve them, a great example were Prohibition, certain wars or "police actions" that the government has put into place, and housing projects that have exacerbated poverty. Private charity has proven more effective since individual charities have to compete for donations and are often very dedicated to their goals.
You make some good points, but they are not accurate.
Bill Gates is richer today than when he started the Gates Foundation. He gives nothing to help the poor in America and the shift of wealth to the rich and away from the middle class in the US is one cause of our economic problems.
Bill Gates lives in a mansion just a few miles from children sleeping in allies. He hardly “loves his neighbors as he loves himself.”
Matthew 22:39-40
39"The second is like it, YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.'
40" On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."
By the way Warren Buffett bragged he pays a lower income tax rate than those who work for him.
http://hubpages.com/hub/thejcrevelator2buffettswar
1 Timothy 6:17
17 “Charge them that are rich in this world, that they may not be highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy”
We are a part of our government and government policy effects us all – I take the above to mean raise taxes of the rich and greedy and help the poor and needy.
Government has programs that do help the poor – just not enough programs.
Thanks for your comment.
Your title and hub simply don't hold water scripturally. Jesus never encouraged us to coerce or force people into anything. He never did that in his own ministry. He simply told the truth and let people do what they chose. It's called free will. Bill Gates and Buffett will answer to God like the rest of us.
What libs don't understand is that if you punish productivity with higher taxes, the big money guys take their ball and play elsewhere. This ends up hurting everyone as it directly affects joblessness. Jesus' words were not meant to be forced on those who are not following him! You need to do some reading about the meaning of the word 'charge' in 1 Timothy 6:17. If you think it means higher taxes, I'm truly amazed at how you've let your own biases and desires affect your interpretation of scripture.
Bottom line: If you've earned it by building a better mousetrap than everyone else, you should get to do whatever you want with the money. Everyone should pay taxes, but using them as a punitive measure for the rich is counter-productive to the very people you want to help. I know that you are sincere, but libs can't seem to see the end results of their actions.
Your title and hub simply don't hold water scripturally. Jesus never encouraged us to coerce or force people into anything. He never did that in his own ministry. He simply told the truth and let people do what they chose. It's called free will. Bill Gates and Buffett will answer to God like the rest of us.
What libs don't understand is that if you punish productivity with higher taxes, the big money guys take their ball and play elsewhere. This ends up hurting everyone as it directly affects joblessness. Jesus' words were not meant to be forced on those who are not folowing him! You need to do some reading about the meaning of the word 'charge' in 1 Timothy 6:17. If you think it means higher taxes, I'm truly amazed at how you've let your own biases and desires affect your interpretation of scripture.
Bottom line: If you've earned it by building a better mousetrap than everyone else, you should get to do whatever you want with the money. Everyone should pay taxes, but using them as a punitive measure for the rich is counter-productive to the very people you want to help. I know that you are sincere, but libs can't seem to see the end results of their actions.
You make a great point – “if you earned by building a better mouse trap you should be able to keep it.” Most rich people didn’t earn their wealth and they are now using it to move jobs to China and destroy America.
The myth that “they got it the old fashioned way – they earned it” is a myth. 4 of the top 10 on the Forbes 400 list inherited their wealth from Sam Walton of Wal-Mart.
Warren Buffett made his money. But his 4 kids all billionaires didn’t. Bill Gates earned his money but his 2 kids didn’t. In fact studies show that over 75% of all wealthy people inherited their wealth. I’m taking about the top 1% = 300,000 richest, not the self made guys who is worth a few million.
What did Timothy mean below?
1 Timothy 6:17
17 “Charge them that are rich in this world, that they may not be highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy”
Romans 15:1 “We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not please ourselves.”
Corinthians 12:12 “For as the body is one (AMERICA), and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so ebing Christ.”
Of course Jesus wants us to “help the least among us.” He wants this on an individual and group basis. We owe it to Him.
Do me a favor and review the hub below and let me know what you think. I do appreciate your in-put and opinion, even when we don’t agree.
http://hubpages.com/hub/thejcrevelator2areyouovert
Thanks for your thoughts. We just disagree on this point and most Americans agree with you. In fact Americans HATE all taxes.
Many people misunderstand some of Jesus' teachings. I remember one meeting of an UCC Bible study group, where we discussed what Jesus told different men of wealth what they needed to do to get closer to God. He told one man to give away everything he owned, he told another to give away a portion of what he owned, etc. As described in the New Testiment, Jesus' answer for each individual on what they needed to do to grow closer to God and therefore to be accepted by God differed. At time the message differed greatly from one person to the next. Even when on the surface, two individuals may appear to be the same. For example all wealthy individuals.
I well educated man in the group, whose father and grand father were both Christian ministers stated that "Jesus was not very consistent with his message". This man missed the message in the text. Jesus did not believe that being rich was a sin and he did not believe that in order to grow close to God that rich men had no choice but to give away everything that they owned.
Jesus is very consistent with his message. And his message is this. In order to grow close to God, each person must given up everything that they value more than their relationship with God. To be close to God, you must value your relationship with God over everything else in your life.
When Jesus met with people, he was clearly skilled in asking the questions necessary for him to understand what each individual valued more than they valued their relationship with God. Once he leaned what this was, he told the person that they must give away those things. Only then could they grow close to God.
Many people have been taught that "money is he root of evil"; but this is not the message taught in the Bible. The complete message is "love of money is the root of evil".
Just because you happen to believe that Bill Gates or Warren Buffet must give away everything or that Jesus taught the message of 'tax the rich' is foolish. Many of the people with whom Jesus took issue were the tax collectors. Some of the wealthiest people during Jesus' time were the tax collectors.
There is a parallel message that at least might make you understand that taking all of the money from the rich and giving it to the poor won't do what you say you want. Remember "give a man a fish and he will eat for day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a life time".
The U.S. Federal Government' war on poverty resulted in the transfer of wealth that you seem to advocate. Billions of dollars are and have been spent fighting poverty and the result is that the number of people living in poverty in the U.S. continues to increase.
Don't feel happy for the people who have grown to become depdendent on others in order to live. You should feel sorry for these people and we all should work to help these people get out of poverty through education and hard work and much less government interference.
The basic premise is that the wealthy in the United States don't pay their share of the tax burden. I've included the url from a New York Times article (and we all know which way politically the NY Times lean). The top 1% of income earners in the United States pay more income taxes than the bottom 95% of income earners. How much more should they pay?
While I know that we will never return to live in a country tthat our founding father's envisioned, we need to move in the direction. A large portion of the taxes taken in by the FFederal government are comsumed by maintaining the thousands of government agencies. Our Constitution was wrtten with the concerns of the federal government growing too large and powerful. The 10th ammendment states clearly that unless the authority is explicitely given to the federal government; the federal government does not have that authority; rather it belongs to the States and the citizens. To summarize, the people who are closest to the problems we face are better able to resolve those problems.
If only the American People had the will power to force the people in Washington to own up to their oath to defend and uphold the Constitution.
You are correct that the rich pay most of the taxes in the US, but they pay a very low tax rate. In fact Warren Buffett brags he paid just a 17% income tax rate while many that worked for him and made far less paid a higher rate.
Many of the rich pay no taxes at all.
See below
http://hubpages.com/hub/thejcrevelator2buffettswar
I do agree we should be puttng more money into our schools, because a lot of public schools are failing. But that is government and teachers are government employees.
Taxes in America are very low compared to other western democracies and need to be raised on the rich. But I understand that this isn't going to happen anytime soon.
Thanks for reading and for your comment.
Jesus is God, the second person of the Trinity and does not contradict God the Father. In Exodus, God said that the rich and the poor were to be taxed equal proportions. 'You shall not tax the rich more, nor the poor less'. Exodus 30:15. Nowhere does the Bible say that the civil government is supposed to be involved in health, education, or welfare. These roles are for the other two main institutions in society; the family and the church. Charities are but extensions of both. The poor also had requirements to receiving help, as they couldn't be slothful and irresponsible. The only Biblical and Constitutional role of the civil government is defense of life and property (Romans 13:1-4).
See below
http://hubpages.com/hub/thejcrevelator2buffettswar
Exodus is a really bad place to start because it is in the OLD BAD Testament (OBT). In the OBT God is a totally different God from the JC version. They are not compatible.
Your ideas are Interesting; that civil government shouldn’t be involved in education, health, etc; no FDA, no FAA and no to all the other agencies of government including PUBLIC SCHOLS. Only the rich will have education in your America. You must be a Tea Bagger.
“Love you neighbors and you love yourself” and “Do unto others as you have them do unto you.” You will not find these in the OBT.
Thanks for your comments…
1 Timothy 6:17
17 “Charge them that are rich in this world, that they may not be highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy”
You don't know how much the rich give. I'm glad there is the rich they create business and jobs. They are the ones that know what to do with wealth that's why they have it. If you take from those that know what to do with it and give it to those that do know what to do with it what are you going to do about business growth and new jobs.
Jesus told the rich to give, He didn't tell the people or government to take it. He also said the love of money was
evil, not the money was evil. Having is not evil I'm glad there is the rich, because that means I can also with Gods help and blessings.
1 Timothy 6:17 “Charge them that are rich in this world, that they may not be highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy”
In fact Jesus tells the rich to “sell whatever thou hast and give it to the poor.” He says this in two gospels. He and most thinking people know it takes millions of starving people to support one billionaire.
The idea that the rich create jobs is a myth – Caroline Kennedy is worth $400 million she created NO jobs, she like 75% of the rich in America inherited their wealth. Bill Gates has two children and a wife, they are billionaires and they created no jobs. Warren Buffett has a wife and 4 children all billionaires, they created no jobs. Sam (Wal-Mart) Walton’s four children are worth 78 billion and they didn’t create on job, in fact they helped move 10 million American jobs to China.
You are living in a dream world if you think the rich care on dime for the 25,000 people that starve to death everyday on God’s green earth.
The facts are the rich don’t give much. Bill Gates started the Gates foundation years ago and he is richer now than when he started the Foundation. The rich give for the tax breaks and the good PR. That won’t help them when JC sit on the Throne of Man.
Thanks for reading and your comments…
The rich are getting rich, but so are the poor. The fallacy here is that there is a single pie of wealth and that if one person is rich, he could only have taken that from someone else. However, rich people create new pies. By designing Windows, Bill Gates improved efficiency greatly. Before it might take far longer to produce a large document than it did with his word processor. Therefore, he made things easier and improved people's lives.
Also, constraining how much money the rich are allowed to make will only remove their incentive to create more wealth. Once they reach their maximum level, they'll just stop. No more wealth will be created. It's not as though once they get to that level they will then work for nothing.
Thirdly, giving should be voluntary, not coerced. Plus, the government is the biggest waster of money. Every penny Bill Gates received, he had to convince people to give it to him. It was a win-win. When someone confiscates one person's money and gives it to someone else, then there are bound to be unhappy people and inefficiencies.
Your comments are interesting, but wrong. 75% of all rich people didn’t create one job, work for their money and don’t help the economy.
Yes Bill Gates worked to become a billionaire, but his wife and three kids didn’t and they too are all billionaires.
Yes Sam Walton built Wal-Mart, but his four heirs didn’t work a day and they are worth $80 billion, $20 billion each. Yes Warren Buffett worked to become a billionaire, but his wife and four kids didn’t and they are billionaires. This is the fact of wealth in the USA. 75% inherited and these people don’t contribute anything to jobs creation or to the USA. They fight to get their taxes reduced or eliminated.
The distribution of wealth in the USA is now so dysfunctional and society is at risk. The top 1% take over 25% of all income in the USA, while the bottom 50% gets less than 17% of all income. Soon the rich will take most of the income, making America far poorer as a country.
When we redistribute wealth to the bottom they spend the money, helping the economy. When we give it to the rich they hoard the money.
By the way Bill isn't hiring in the USA, but he is in Communist China and in India. US jobs going overseas.
Thanks for reading and for your comments…
What has happened to our country when one class attacks another for prosperity? Shame should be felt by the poor for not working to achieve. Not the other way around.
Aa,
19 million American children live in poverty. Millions of these God’s children go to bed hungry so you and your buddies can give billions in tax cuts to the billionaires. 10 million American children have no healthcare and millions are sick in the richest country in the world so Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and the top 1% can pay a low tax rate of just 22%.
10 million middle class jobs have been moved to Communist China to increase profits for the rich while the average wage has fallen for all workers. 300,000 teachers have been fired and tens of thousands of policemen have been fired, so the richest can have tax cuts. These people all want to work.
75% of the rich never worked to be rich, they inherited their wealth. Bill Gates worked, his wife and three children didn’t and they are all worth billions. Warren Buffett worked, his wife and four children didn’t and they are all worth billions. The four Wal-Mart heirs are worth $80 billion and they didn’t work a day to be rich. Their children are billionaires. They truth is simple only the fools refuse to see.
The Godless always blame the victim for the crime.
Thanks for reading and for your comments…
Interesting reading thejcrevelator2! I like your Jesus, he sounds a lot more like the guy I read about in the Good Book, not the one invented by the far right.
Also tired of hearing the rich produced their wealth from sheer air and owe no one anything. I wonder what would happen if the workers of the world all took a week off. Oh wait… they can't because the rich make sure the majority don't make enough to miss a week’s work without their children going hungry.
That is why the rich produce products in the third world. Hassle free production and slave eeerrrrr cheap labor. (They don’t produce in America because it cuts into their profit line, and that is the only reason.) More Profit for them!!! And then to add the crowning touch, we sympathize with the poor dears. Life is so rough on your average Billionaire with all these greedy Socialist types demanding they give a portion back to those who helped make them rich and at the same time cover those old people, children and the less fortunate because it is the humane thing to do.
Anyways thanks for letting me stop by and rant because reading your Hub today is the only thing that has kept me from puking in my trash can when I read the drivel that some of these sanctimonious apologists for the rich post on the web.
Keep the faith!
j,
Thanks for reading and for your comments...
God has given us freewill, and that means free choice to give to charity or not. We should not be jealous and covert other people's money.
AZ,
It has nothing to do with coverting other peoples money. It has to do with JC's demands we love our neighbors and do unto others in a Christian society. We are all forced to pay taxes for war, killing and occupation. Why not for helping the poor and needy by taxing the rich and greedy? JC demands this of all Christians. If you aren't a Christian you can simply tell the poor what Republicans tell them, you are on your own while we keep taxes low for the rich and greedy.
No true Christian has freedom to ignore the demands of JC.
Thanks for reading and for your comments...
Mike360 2 years ago
I agree. The GOP protects the rich. The ones who really need protection are the poor but they have no money with which to bribe politicians.